Official Luthiers Forum!

Owned and operated by Lance Kragenbrink
It is currently Wed Nov 27, 2024 6:07 am


All times are UTC - 5 hours





Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 86 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3, 4  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Jason Moe's Build
PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 1:07 am 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 20, 2009 12:41 am
Posts: 605
Location: LaCrosse WI
First name: Jason
Last Name: Moe
City: LaCrosse
State: WI
Zip/Postal Code: 54601
Country: USA
Focus: Build
Status: Semi-pro
I plan to use more native species for this. Most of them are cheaper and i've been waiting to use some woods that are cheaper to get a hold of. I plan to build a smaller parlor size "camping guitar". I plan to use Ash for the Back and sides, either cedar or lutz for the top. One thing i've been giddy about trying is the use of birch bark for rosette or something. Maybe a sound port. The ideas are still coming. Jason Moe

_________________
Jason Moe
LaCrosse WI 54601


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Jason Moe's Build
PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 1:21 am 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 20, 2009 12:41 am
Posts: 605
Location: LaCrosse WI
First name: Jason
Last Name: Moe
City: LaCrosse
State: WI
Zip/Postal Code: 54601
Country: USA
Focus: Build
Status: Semi-pro
So here we go: Heres my parts list so far. If I have to cut back, I can always cut my own linings or change purflings. I didn't end up with much left.
Top:Red Cedar-20.00
Back and Sides:Curly Ash-25.00
Neck:Sapele-10.00.UPDATED TO CURLY MAPLE 10.00
Truss Rod:LMI single action-14.35
Neckblock and Tailblock:Mahog-1.00
Linings:Mahog-10.00
Purflings:BWB .060-8.20
Binding:Curly Maple-1.00
Cedar Bracing: Free with top
Fingerboard:Macassar Ebony-12.00 UPDATED TO HICKORY-2.00
Fretwire: LMI 18% Ni/Ag-4.95
Tuners:Grover Ebay special-15.00
Nut and Saddle:Bone-5.00
Bridge and Pins:Ebony and Boxwood maybe-12.00UPDATED TO HICKORY. 6.00
Finish:Tru-oil-2.00
Rosette:Birchbark-Free from my buddy Jeralds firewood pile.
Headplate:Scrap from back cut-off-Free
Bridgeplate:IRW scrap-Free
So the tally is $124.50 still some room for little screws on the truss rod cover, and strap buttons of some sort. Here's a pic of most of the materials. The top and back/sides do darken up alot to a honey color. Depending on how the rosette turns out, I might use a IRW fretboard instead. One side of the bark is white and the other is a tan/pinkish color. I'm going to experiment. I got the scarf joint on the neck gluing tonight on day 1. Happy building everyone! Jason


Image Image

_________________
Jason Moe
LaCrosse WI 54601


Last edited by JasonMoe on Thu Oct 11, 2012 12:32 am, edited 1 time in total.

Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Jason Moe's Build
PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 2:19 am 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 20, 2009 12:41 am
Posts: 605
Location: LaCrosse WI
First name: Jason
Last Name: Moe
City: LaCrosse
State: WI
Zip/Postal Code: 54601
Country: USA
Focus: Build
Status: Semi-pro
I am tossing around the idea of a curly maple neck. To keep it regional wood. I think I will glue up a maple neck instead. Save a dollar or two also. The ebony might go too. Hickory maybe. I liked the black to match the birchbark to make the rosette jump out. Maybe not. After looking at the way the color of the underside of the bark relates to the top, something lighter might work out better.

_________________
Jason Moe
LaCrosse WI 54601


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Jason Moe's Build
PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 12:33 am 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 20, 2009 12:41 am
Posts: 605
Location: LaCrosse WI
First name: Jason
Last Name: Moe
City: LaCrosse
State: WI
Zip/Postal Code: 54601
Country: USA
Focus: Build
Status: Semi-pro
So I glued up a curly maple neck instead. Image
I joined the top and the back.Image Image
I also got my rosette started. I glued the birch bark with the underside out. Image
It matches the cedar top very nicely. I glued it to some scrap spruce cut-offs. ImageI squeezed it in my vise with larger jaws to keep it flat. I"ll cut it out next when I put some coats of laquer on it, and decide how wide to make it.Image

_________________
Jason Moe
LaCrosse WI 54601


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Jason Moe's Build
PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 7:38 am 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jul 27, 2009 7:52 am
Posts: 4524
First name: Big
Last Name: Jim
State: Deep in the heart of Bluegrass
Country: usa
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
Looking good ! I like your wood choices . [:Y:]

_________________
The Shallower the depth of the stream , The Louder the Babble !
The Taking Of Offense Is the Life Course Of The Stupid One !
Wanna Leave a Better Planet for our Kids? How about Working on BETTER KIDS for our Planet !
Forgiveness is the ability to accept an apology that you will probably NEVER GET
The truth will set you free , But FIRST, it will probably Piss you Off !
Creativity is allowing yourself to make Mistakes, Art is knowing which ones to Keep !
The Saddest thing anyone can do , is push a Loyal Person to the point that they Dont Care Anymore
Never met a STRONG person who had an EASY past !
http://wiksnwudwerks.blogspot.com/
http://www.facebook.com/groups/GatewayA ... rAssembly/


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Jason Moe's Build
PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 7:49 am 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood
User avatar

Joined: Thu Feb 12, 2009 12:12 pm
Posts: 3293
First name: Bryan
Last Name: Bear
City: St. Louis
State: Mo
Country: USA
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
Nice! I like the bark.

_________________
Bryan Bear PMoMC

Take care of your feet, and your feet will take care of you.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Jason Moe's Build
PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 7:51 am 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood

Joined: Tue May 13, 2008 10:44 am
Posts: 6256
Location: Virginia
Looking forward to seeing a pic of that rosette.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Jason Moe's Build
PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 7:52 am 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member
User avatar

Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2010 9:01 pm
Posts: 3031
First name: Tony
Last Name: C
City: Brooklyn
State: NY
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
Very cool Jason.

_________________
http://www.CostaGuitars.com
PMoMC


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Jason Moe's Build
PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 7:07 pm 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 20, 2009 12:41 am
Posts: 605
Location: LaCrosse WI
First name: Jason
Last Name: Moe
City: LaCrosse
State: WI
Zip/Postal Code: 54601
Country: USA
Focus: Build
Status: Semi-pro
Thanks for the compliments. I should have the rosette cut out tomarrow.

_________________
Jason Moe
LaCrosse WI 54601


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Jason Moe's Build
PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:52 pm 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 20, 2009 12:41 am
Posts: 605
Location: LaCrosse WI
First name: Jason
Last Name: Moe
City: LaCrosse
State: WI
Zip/Postal Code: 54601
Country: USA
Focus: Build
Status: Semi-pro
Heres the rosette.ImageImage

_________________
Jason Moe
LaCrosse WI 54601


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Jason Moe's Build
PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 12:28 am 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 20, 2009 12:41 am
Posts: 605
Location: LaCrosse WI
First name: Jason
Last Name: Moe
City: LaCrosse
State: WI
Zip/Postal Code: 54601
Country: USA
Focus: Build
Status: Semi-pro
I decided to change my wood selection a little bit more. This will make it made from all local woods that grow around here in Wisconsin minus the mahogany neck block and tail block. I'm making my fretboard and bridge out of Hickory. I found a really nice board. I ripped it into 2 to get 2 fretboards out of it. When I cut it open, theres a little dark hole of some sort on one spot. I might be able to utilize it at the 12th fret. Its a little gnarly around it. Or i'll go around it. 8 dollar board. 8 footer. I still have enough left for a neck at some point in the future. I think it should be hard enough to stand up to the amount I play. I'll put pics up when I get new batteries for my camera. I've been keeping track of how many hours i'm putting into this also. So far around 4 shop hours. Thats not including lots of thinking about it and planning, looking at boards etc.

_________________
Jason Moe
LaCrosse WI 54601


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Jason Moe's Build
PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 1:42 am 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 20, 2009 12:41 am
Posts: 605
Location: LaCrosse WI
First name: Jason
Last Name: Moe
City: LaCrosse
State: WI
Zip/Postal Code: 54601
Country: USA
Focus: Build
Status: Semi-pro
I got my neck all glued up, and cut my tenon. Spent the afternoon getting the neckblock to fit nice. ImageImageI'm working on the fretboard next. I need to radius it. I have a good feel with my belt sander to get it close. Then i'm using a block. Stay tuned. I am building another guitar to with this one, so I only have so many clamps. I'm doing both at the same time. So I hope to have the top braced, and the backs braced within the week.

_________________
Jason Moe
LaCrosse WI 54601


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Jason Moe's Build
PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 1:56 am 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 20, 2009 12:41 am
Posts: 605
Location: LaCrosse WI
First name: Jason
Last Name: Moe
City: LaCrosse
State: WI
Zip/Postal Code: 54601
Country: USA
Focus: Build
Status: Semi-pro
I'm making a Hickory fretboard. ImageI ripped a board into 2. Saved a nice chunk for the bridge. I'm radiusing the Padma way. Getting it close. then handblocking it. I hope to get the side done soon. I need to be in binding stage by Veterns day.

_________________
Jason Moe
LaCrosse WI 54601


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Jason Moe's Build
PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 1:59 am 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 20, 2009 12:41 am
Posts: 605
Location: LaCrosse WI
First name: Jason
Last Name: Moe
City: LaCrosse
State: WI
Zip/Postal Code: 54601
Country: USA
Focus: Build
Status: Semi-pro
Neck joint is done. Image

_________________
Jason Moe
LaCrosse WI 54601


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Jason Moe's Build
PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 12:59 am 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 20, 2009 12:41 am
Posts: 605
Location: LaCrosse WI
First name: Jason
Last Name: Moe
City: LaCrosse
State: WI
Zip/Postal Code: 54601
Country: USA
Focus: Build
Status: Semi-pro
I started bracing. Did the popsicle brace and got most of the braces roughed out. I'm using cedar, so I'm leaving them a little highter. This is high altitude cedar and is very strong compared to others. Image

_________________
Jason Moe
LaCrosse WI 54601


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Jason Moe's Build
PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 1:05 am 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 20, 2009 12:41 am
Posts: 605
Location: LaCrosse WI
First name: Jason
Last Name: Moe
City: LaCrosse
State: WI
Zip/Postal Code: 54601
Country: USA
Focus: Build
Status: Semi-pro
The humidty has gone up to lots of rain this evening. So I got the truss rod in, and the faceplate gluing. The faceplate is going to match the fretboard. I also figured out where the fretboard is going to be on my board. I hope to get the rest of the top braced this week. Jason Image Image

_________________
Jason Moe
LaCrosse WI 54601


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Jason Moe's Build
PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 8:01 am 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member
User avatar

Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2010 9:01 pm
Posts: 3031
First name: Tony
Last Name: C
City: Brooklyn
State: NY
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
Looks good Jason. Do you always fit the neck joint out of the guitar? I never saw that before in your builds.

_________________
http://www.CostaGuitars.com
PMoMC


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Jason Moe's Build
PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 6:51 pm 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 20, 2009 12:41 am
Posts: 605
Location: LaCrosse WI
First name: Jason
Last Name: Moe
City: LaCrosse
State: WI
Zip/Postal Code: 54601
Country: USA
Focus: Build
Status: Semi-pro
I fit it so I can position my neck on my workboard. It gives me a straight neck. I dont have a neck router jig. Ive done this with all my guitars with bolt-on necks.

_________________
Jason Moe
LaCrosse WI 54601


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Jason Moe's Build
PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 2:53 am 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 20, 2009 12:41 am
Posts: 605
Location: LaCrosse WI
First name: Jason
Last Name: Moe
City: LaCrosse
State: WI
Zip/Postal Code: 54601
Country: USA
Focus: Build
Status: Semi-pro
I was just about to glue on the X brace. I tested the strenth by barely flexing it. It cracked. Scary enough. I think i'm going to use my hand split lutz bracing from here on out. Image

_________________
Jason Moe
LaCrosse WI 54601


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Jason Moe's Build
PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 2:54 am 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 20, 2009 12:41 am
Posts: 605
Location: LaCrosse WI
First name: Jason
Last Name: Moe
City: LaCrosse
State: WI
Zip/Postal Code: 54601
Country: USA
Focus: Build
Status: Semi-pro
Now its 20% humidty in the shop and I can't do any bracing. I like around 30-40% in these parts of the world.

_________________
Jason Moe
LaCrosse WI 54601


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Jason Moe's Build
PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 1:49 am 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 20, 2009 12:41 am
Posts: 605
Location: LaCrosse WI
First name: Jason
Last Name: Moe
City: LaCrosse
State: WI
Zip/Postal Code: 54601
Country: USA
Focus: Build
Status: Semi-pro
Humidity is back up to 30%. Got a new X-brace done and glued in. I had to make a new one due to stress testing. Image

_________________
Jason Moe
LaCrosse WI 54601


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Jason Moe's Build
PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 1:59 am 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 20, 2009 12:41 am
Posts: 605
Location: LaCrosse WI
First name: Jason
Last Name: Moe
City: LaCrosse
State: WI
Zip/Postal Code: 54601
Country: USA
Focus: Build
Status: Semi-pro
Slotted the fretboard. Took an hour by hand. I think I really DO NEED to build a power tool sled/jig to do this. The Hickory cut alot like Pau Ferro. Not near as hard as ebony and a touch softer than IRW. It cut really nice and did'nt squeeze to much at all. I did have a Tetnus shot today. Its been 25 years. Maybe thats why my left arm is sore. I gotta get this guitar done. Image

_________________
Jason Moe
LaCrosse WI 54601


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Jason Moe's Build
PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 2:06 am 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 20, 2009 12:41 am
Posts: 605
Location: LaCrosse WI
First name: Jason
Last Name: Moe
City: LaCrosse
State: WI
Zip/Postal Code: 54601
Country: USA
Focus: Build
Status: Semi-pro
Radiused the freboard with a block plane with my custom handle from a "cheese-grator" handle I fitted to a StewMac curved block. I havn't decided if I want to bind it or not. I'm going to see how smoothe the edges are after I cut it out. If the edges are rough, i'll easily bind it. That will smoothe it out. Image

_________________
Jason Moe
LaCrosse WI 54601


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Jason Moe's Build
PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 3:35 am 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 20, 2009 12:41 am
Posts: 605
Location: LaCrosse WI
First name: Jason
Last Name: Moe
City: LaCrosse
State: WI
Zip/Postal Code: 54601
Country: USA
Focus: Build
Status: Semi-pro
I put dots in the fretboard. I put them in 2 other fretboards also. I am building another guitar on the side with the build-off. Major neck work coming soon. The top is braced. The tap tone lost some luster. So i'm taking off a bunch off the lower legs. So far, 9.75 hours of labor. Image

_________________
Jason Moe
LaCrosse WI 54601


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Jason Moe's Build
PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 9:14 am 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member
User avatar

Joined: Wed Oct 08, 2008 11:36 am
Posts: 7378
Location: Southeast US
City: Lenoir City
State: TN
Zip/Postal Code: 37772
Country: US
Focus: Repair
Looks good. 9.75 hours labor so far - - that's fast.

_________________
Steve Smith
"Music is what feelings sound like"


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 86 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3, 4  Next

All times are UTC - 5 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 10 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
phpBB customization services by 2by2host.com